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Francis Phylppe 1553
Written and transcribedby David Phelps.
Excerpted in part from The Phelps Family of America and Their English Ancestors, (Save $200 by ordering through us.) By Oliver S. Phelps and Andrew T. Servin. (Get a free, updated index here.)
Descendants of Francis Phyllype of Nether Tyne, England, and possible ancestors to William or George Phelps of Crewkerne, England and Windsor, Connecticut.
Most of this is based upon the finding in Burke's, "Commoners of Great Britain and Ireland" and is very speculative.
From Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, "Francis Phylppe of Nether Teyne, in Parish of Checkley, died 6th of Edward VI, and was succeeded by his son John Phelipe of Nether Teyne, who died in 1641, leaving, among others, a son Anthony Phelps," etc. "Nether Teyne is about twelve miles from Litchfield, Staffordshire, and from fifty to sixty miles north of Tewkesbury" (The Phelps Family in America, Vol. I, p 50.)
Anyone reading or using this information should take great care before documenting any of this as factual. I am not a genealogist as I'm sure the body of this note will reveal but I am enthusiastic about resolving this roadblock in our Phelps ancestory.
- Francis Phylyppe (c1522-1553) "Francis Phylppe of Neyther Teyne, in Parish of Checkley, died 6th of Edward VI." Note: Edward VI reign started in 1547; the 6th year would be 1553. Francis Phylyppe, d. 1553 of Checkly, Stafford, England. Source: 1992 IGI A1994 England, Stafford, Page 27, 348. [See his will.]
- John PHELIPE, Sr. (c1540 - 1552 d: 1641) John Phelipe,
Sr. date of birth is estimated from his father Francis' date of death,
1553 [6th of Edward VI], and his own death date, 1641.
He has to be born before his father's death but not older than 100. This would have made John very young, age 1-13, when his father died and he succeeded him. Wedded, in 1627, Elizabeth, daughter of Edward Rawlins, esq. of Teane, and dying in 1648, was s. [succeeded] by his son, Richard. - Anthony PHILIPS (c1560 - 1607 d: 1648) "John
Phelipe, of Neyther Teyne, who died in 1641, leaving, inter alios, a son,
Anthony."
In looking up "inter alios" I found the following: "INTER ALIOS. Between other parties, who are strangers to the proceeding in question." I have no idea how, or if, this affects the relationship between John and his son Anthony unless this refers to a succession by someone other than the eldest surviving son. I would welcome other ideas or a clarification of the use if "inter alios" in genealogy. Since Anthony married in 1627, he probably was born before 1607. His father John would be 55-67 in 1607 so it is possible that Anthony was born earlier, even as early as 1560-1572.
If William and George Phelps the immigrants were the sons of John and they left England for America in 1630 (possibly 1634 for George), they would no longer be able to succeed John in 1641 as head of "Heath House". The same is true of Henry who died in 1639. This could leave Anthony either the eldest (or possibly a younger) brother in-line for the inheritance of the position of head of "Heath House". - Richard PHILLIPS (1628 d: 1686 Richard Philips, esq. who m. Christobel, second daughter and co-heir of Robert Whetall, of Bignoll Hill, in the parish of Audley, Staffordshire, and died in 1686, leaving a son and successor, Nathaniel Philips, esq. of Heath House.
- Nathaniel Philips, esq. of Heath House, in the county of Stafford, b. 16th March, 1659. This gentleman m. in 1690, Elizabeth, daughter and co-heir of John Stubbs, gent. of The Shaw, in the same shire, by Ellen, his wife, daughter of John Jervis, esq. of Chatkill and Meaford, and had issue....
- Henry Phelps (Bef. 1600 d: Bef. 1639) If John Phelipe, Sr. was born between 1540-1552 then he would be 61-73 years old when your Nicholas was born in 1623. Therefore it is unlikely that Henry and Nicholas were the sons of John Phelipe. Perhaps Henry and Nicholas' father Henry Phelps, Sr., which you have proposed, was the son of John Phelipe, Sr.. Your Henry Phelps, Sr. would have to be born before 1600 based on the age of Henry Phelps, Jr. (b. abt. 1619). This would make him a plausible son of John Phelipe, Sr.. If Henry Phelps Sr. also died bef. 1639 as you state he could be an elder brother of Anthony who didn't survive his father who died in 1641.
Sent to us by Beretta Monroe (21 Oct 1995): "From all information that can now be obtained, William [Phelps the immigrant] left behind him two younger brothers, Henry and Nicholas, who were probably cared for by their older brother, Anthony. It is recorded that Henry came over on Hercules, in 1634 and later settled in Salem, Massachusetts. Both Henry and Nicholas may have embraced Quakerism. [Note: this information has not been confirmed. –Editor]
I have no idea what was used as the original source for this statement but it might suggest that William and George were sons of Henry Phelps, Sr. and brothers of your Henry and Nicholas. This can't be true unless Henry Phelps was born around 1575 to accommodate William's' birth in 1695 as well as an assumed elder brother Anthony. This is possible since it would fall in John Phelips' age range of 23-35."
John Phelps, Jr. Judge Oliver Seymour and Andrew T. Servin in The Phelps Family of America and Their English Ancestors, Volume 1, pages 53, 54, cite: "John Phelps who dwelt upon Nether Teyne in England the son of Francis Phelps, who died in the reign of Edward IV [sic], left with other issue at his decease, in 1641, Anthony, William and John." I have not been able to find the source of their claim of sons William and John. This is one of the premises which have me investigating this family as the origin of William and George Phelps the immigrants. (see below)
William Phelps, Sr. (c1593 - 1595 d: July 14, 1672 I am having trouble with William and George as you can see. With so much confusion caused by the Phelps Family in America's assumption that William and George came from Tewkesbury, I have had a lot of trouble sorting out the real family for William of Tewkesbury and finding the ones from Crewkerne.
Some of the "Heath House" (of Checkley) descendants dispersed to other areas, especially if they were not in line for succession so it is not totally unreasonable for there to be children located elsewhere (i.e. Crewkerne). The note above from From Bergetta Monroe gives us another hypothesis that William was the brother of an Anthony, Henry and Nicholas. We'll pursue this if new facts point that direction.
As to George Phelps, the article Identifying George P—?— of the Recovery, 1633 [1634], neither proves or disproves a connection to the above family. I include it as possible background for further research. George Phelps is believed to be the George P__?__ aboard the Recovery of London with Gabriel Cornish as its master, sailing from Weymouth in Dorsetshire to New England March 31, 1634. The ship sailed into Massachusetts Bay in late June or July 1634; and it was very likely one of the fourteen said to have arrived that June.
Richard Phelps
I haven't found anything on Richard Phelps but I include him because his name is almost always listed with William and George. No relationship has ever been proven.
Summary
Phelps Origins in Nether Tyne, Checkley, England
- Francis Phylyppe (c1522 - 1536-1553)
- John PHELIPE, Sr. (c1540 - 1552-1641)
- Anthony PHILIPS (c1560 - 1607-1648)
- Richard PHILLIPS (1628-1686)
- Henry Phelps (Bef. 1600-Bef. 1639)
- Henry Phelps (Abt. 1619-Bet. 1672 - 1676)
- Nicholas Phelps (Abt. 1623-Bef. 1664)
- John Phelps, Jr.
- William Phelps, Sr. (c1593 - 1595-July 14, 1672)
- George Phelps (Abt. 1606-May 08, 1687)
- Richard Phelps
We should keep looking for those lost sources and try to validate this family one way or the other. All of these assumptions are building a pretty house of cards but it's the best we have for now.
David Phelps 304 Bridlewood North, Colleyville, Texas 76034